Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101461 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 28623 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2017 10:10:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Dec 2017 10:10:34 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 62.31.75.76 76.75-31-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk Received: from [62.31.75.76] ([62.31.75.76:20219] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 53/53-47595-897B84A5 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2017 05:10:33 -0500 Message-ID: <53.53.47595.897B84A5@pb1.pair.com> To: internals@lists.php.net References: <72392123-d37b-26df-6886-218f48205f8a@fleshgrinder.com> <58A5ABDF-AA25-46D4-83E7-4DE72E3DFF5E@gmail.com> <757270790.33iDQ9MZ2V@vulcan> <4b55eed1-8656-ff70-e4e9-ad5e40213405@rhsoft.net> <73.EE.47595.179574A5@pb1.pair.com> <320cb1b3-222b-2b21-6c39-8d9ea539b267@rhsoft.net> In-Reply-To: <320cb1b3-222b-2b21-6c39-8d9ea539b267@rhsoft.net> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 10:10:29 -0000 Lines: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3564.1216 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V16.4.3564.1216 X-Posted-By: 62.31.75.76 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Scalar Pseudo-type From: TonyMarston@hotmail.com ("Tony Marston") wrote in message news:320cb1b3-222b-2b21-6c39-8d9ea539b267@rhsoft.net... > > > >Am 30.12.2017 um 10:16 schrieb Tony Marston: >> wrote in message news:f48976dd-589f-e88e-37ba-38096c3a3602@rhsoft.net... >>>> You are missing the point. If an RFC is so badly written that someone >>>> does not understand it, or understand what benefits it is supposed to >>>> provide, then there is no point in up-voting it >>> >>> if i don't undrstand it i don't vote at all - that's the point >>> >>> not up >>> not down >> >> If you can't understand it then you cannot tell what benefit it gives to >> the greater PHP community, and if you cannot see that it provides any >> benefit then you should vote it DOWN. Common sense should dictate that >> you only vote it UP when you are convinced that it will provide something >> of benefit. If you don't vote at all you are admitting that you are >> clueless, or don't care, in which case you are not preventing a bad idea >> from being accepted. If it later turns out that it was a crock of sh*t >> then you will be partly to blame because you didn't have the intelligence >> to see it as such and didn't speak up. If you don't understand an RFC >> then not only do you not understand the benefits that it can provide, you >> also don't understand the damage that it can cause. > >frankly, in the real world when you don't understand what some people are >talking about you don't join and say "no, you are wrong" - you either shut >up or ask again but you don't step in yelling "no!" It is not about an idea being right or wrong, it is about adding something new to the language. If you are not convinced that it will add value to the language then you should vote it down. Not voting either way because you don't understand the RFC or its proposed benefits just shows that you aren't qualified to vote on anything. -- Tony Marston