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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Scalar Pseudo-type
From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine)

On 30/12/17 09:16, Tony Marston wrote:
>>> You are missing the point. If an RFC is so badly written that someone
>>> does not understand it, or understand what benefits it is supposed to
>>> provide, then there is no point in up-voting it
>>
>> if i don't undrstand it i don't vote at all - that's the point
>>
>> not up
>> not down
> 
> If you can't understand it then you cannot tell what benefit it gives to
> the greater PHP community, and if you cannot see that it provides any
> benefit then you should vote it DOWN.

Not being able to vote, many of us have no option to complain about the
way things are going. Currently there seems to be several styles of PHP
form the nice and simple untyped version I moved to from very strictly
typed hard compiled code I'd been using up until then, through to
current code which is reliant on third party things like PSR and
Composer and expects only strictly typed PHP.

The 'greater PHP community' I continue to support is still only looking
for a simply life, but each iteration of PHP7 is just making things more
and more complex, which is why I STILL have not switched off PHP5 and
5.4 and earlier is still running a large percentage of sites. Just what
percentage of the wider community thinks that strict typing is giving an
essential benefit? If there was a groundswell for typing then perhaps we
would not have this continual debate on just how to jam a little more of
a move that way and get on with a version of PHP that is only typed.
Then for one can simply avoid it ...

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