Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101452 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 70125 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2017 09:56:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Dec 2017 09:56:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lists@rhsoft.net; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lists@rhsoft.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain rhsoft.net designates 91.118.73.15 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lists@rhsoft.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 91.118.73.15 mail.thelounge.net Received: from [91.118.73.15] ([91.118.73.15:20709] helo=mail.thelounge.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 87/3F-47595-8D2674A5 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 04:56:41 -0500 Received: from srv-rhsoft.rhsoft.net (Authenticated sender: h.reindl@thelounge.net) by mail.thelounge.net (THELOUNGE MTA) with ESMTPSA id 3z7zPc3SQczXMR for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 10:56:36 +0100 (CET) To: internals@lists.php.net References: <72392123-d37b-26df-6886-218f48205f8a@fleshgrinder.com> <58A5ABDF-AA25-46D4-83E7-4DE72E3DFF5E@gmail.com> <757270790.33iDQ9MZ2V@vulcan> <4b55eed1-8656-ff70-e4e9-ad5e40213405@rhsoft.net> <73.EE.47595.179574A5@pb1.pair.com> Message-ID: <320cb1b3-222b-2b21-6c39-8d9ea539b267@rhsoft.net> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 10:56:36 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <73.EE.47595.179574A5@pb1.pair.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: de-CH Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Scalar Pseudo-type From: lists@rhsoft.net ("lists@rhsoft.net") Am 30.12.2017 um 10:16 schrieb Tony Marston: > wrote in message news:f48976dd-589f-e88e-37ba-38096c3a3602@rhsoft.net... >>> You are missing the point. If an RFC is so badly written that someone >>> does not understand it, or understand what benefits it is supposed to >>> provide, then there is no point in up-voting it >> >> if i don't undrstand it i don't vote at all - that's the point >> >> not up >> not down > > If you can't understand it then you cannot tell what benefit it gives to > the greater PHP community, and if you cannot see that it provides any > benefit then you should vote it DOWN. Common sense should dictate that > you only vote it UP when you are convinced that it will provide > something of benefit. If you don't vote at all you are admitting that > you are clueless, or don't care, in which case you are not preventing a > bad idea from being accepted. If it later turns out that it was a crock > of sh*t then you will be partly to blame because you didn't have the > intelligence to see it as such and didn't speak up. If you don't > understand an RFC then not only do you not understand the benefits that > it can provide, you also don't understand the damage that it can cause. frankly, in the real world when you don't understand what some people are talking about you don't join and say "no, you are wrong" - you either shut up or ask again but you don't step in yelling "no!"