Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101432 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 86677 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2017 08:04:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Dec 2017 08:04:48 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 62.31.75.76 76.75-31-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk Received: from [62.31.75.76] ([62.31.75.76:12699] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B1/F6-47595-E17F54A5 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 03:04:47 -0500 Message-ID: To: internals@lists.php.net References: <72392123-d37b-26df-6886-218f48205f8a@fleshgrinder.com> <58A5ABDF-AA25-46D4-83E7-4DE72E3DFF5E@gmail.com> <757270790.33iDQ9MZ2V@vulcan> <4b55eed1-8656-ff70-e4e9-ad5e40213405@rhsoft.net> In-Reply-To: <4b55eed1-8656-ff70-e4e9-ad5e40213405@rhsoft.net> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 08:04:41 -0000 Lines: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3564.1216 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V16.4.3564.1216 X-Posted-By: 62.31.75.76 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Scalar Pseudo-type From: TonyMarston@hotmail.com ("Tony Marston") wrote in message news:4b55eed1-8656-ff70-e4e9-ad5e40213405@rhsoft.net... > > > >Am 29.12.2017 um 00:21 schrieb Larry Garfield: >> Correct. Union types I've always seen presented as offering both union >> and >> intersection. There are cases where union is great, and where it's kinda >> silly. There are cases where intersect is great, and where it's kinda >> silly. >> >> Most of the anti- arguments I've seen for "union types" have fixated on >> "int && >> string is meaningless, and Foo || Bar is bad design, so union types are >> bad!" >> Entirely ignoring the flip side, which is int || string (valid use cases) >> and >> Foo && Bar (many many valid use cases) > >well, that explains why the same person which hase a usecase for a "scalar" >pseudo-type donw-votes https://wiki.php.net/rfc/union_types but it makes >his vote not logical at all > >frankly the only valid reasons to down-vote something should be technical >ones which matters for the PHP core itself and not "i don't understand a >feature hence nobody should have it" You are missing the point. If an RFC is so badly written that someone does not understand it, or understand what benefits it is supposed to provide, then there is no point in up-voting it. You may contrive a use case where it provides a small benefit, but if that use case is so limited or so obscure that it does not apply to a significant number of developers then that RFC should be voted down simply because it does not provide any significant benefits. -- Tony Marston