Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101336 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26837 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2017 15:37:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Dec 2017 15:37:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=thruska@cubiclesoft.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=thruska@cubiclesoft.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain cubiclesoft.com designates 149.56.142.28 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: thruska@cubiclesoft.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 149.56.142.28 28.ip-149-56-142.net Received: from [149.56.142.28] ([149.56.142.28:55086] helo=28.ip-149-56-142.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C1/14-53433-AA7FF2A5 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 10:37:14 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: thruska@cubiclesoft.com) with ESMTPSA id 4199E3E828 To: =?UTF-8?Q?Johannes_Schl=c3=bcter?= , "Christoph M. Becker" , =?UTF-8?Q?Pedro_Magalh=c3=a3es?= Cc: PHP internals list References: <1512478149.2069.40.camel@schlueters.de> <19331e5c-d82a-2d60-4f26-755da11fc576@gmx.de> <1512483692.2069.58.camel@schlueters.de> Message-ID: <16957c06-0819-6caf-480b-bd21e8175fbb@cubiclesoft.com> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:37:08 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1512483692.2069.58.camel@schlueters.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Outstanding php.net account requests From: thruska@cubiclesoft.com (Thomas Hruska) On 12/5/2017 7:21 AM, Johannes Schlüter wrote: > On Di, 2017-12-05 at 14:57 +0100, Christoph M. Becker wrote: >> On 05.12.2017 at 14:34, Pedro Magalhães wrote: >> >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Johannes Schlüter >> ters.de> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> we currently have 118 outstanding php.net account requests going >>>> back >>>> to October 2016. If you recently tried to onboard somebody could >>>> you >>>> verify whether they are still unapproved? If somebody creates a >>>> mass- >>>> edit interface this would also be great, as the CSRF protection >>>> makes >>>> deleting obvious spam requests a bit more annoying than it >>>> neeeded. :-D >>>> >>>> If you see legit requests drop me (or somebody else with powers) >>>> a note >>>> (including what kind of svn/git karma is needed) and I can set it >>>> up. >>>> >>>> https://master.php.net/manage/users.php?search=&order=&forward=0& >>>> begin= >>>> 0&max=20&unapproved=1 (I believe this is visible to all @php.net >>>> account holders) >>> To add to that, AFAIK new requests via http://php.net/git-php.php >>> are not >>> sending the e-mail they should to this mailing list (PHP Group). >>> Hence the >>> large number of outstanding requests without follow-up. >> An additional issue is that many account requests are made for PECL >> accounts as well, and not everybody who has karma to approve or >> reject >> VCS account requests has karma to handle PECL account requests. >> Furthermore, while some have karma to approve VCS accounts, they may >> not >> have karma to grant karma – so approving the accounts without >> granting >> actual karma does not really make sense. > > One question we need to answer there is "what should pecl be"? Do we > want to bring PECL extensions onto php infrastructure (shared bug > tracker, git.php.net which gives control to php.net i.e. for finding > successors) or should PECL be a repository with pointers to github and > therelike? In the first case we should work on unifying the accounts. > In the later case we should look into sizing the PECL site down and try > to have an "pecl" installer which can fetch stuff directly from git, > similar to packagist.org, then we could simplify the process there .. PHP documentation access might be the deciding factor here in answering that question. -- Thomas Hruska CubicleSoft President I've got great, time saving software that you will find useful. http://cubiclesoft.com/ And once you find my software useful: http://cubiclesoft.com/donate/