Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101263 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 19968 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2017 01:54:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Dec 2017 01:54:24 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lists@rhsoft.net; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lists@rhsoft.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain rhsoft.net designates 91.118.73.15 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lists@rhsoft.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 91.118.73.15 mail.thelounge.net Received: from [91.118.73.15] ([91.118.73.15:27395] helo=mail.thelounge.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 90/90-11466-DC0F92A5 for ; Thu, 07 Dec 2017 20:54:22 -0500 Received: from srv-rhsoft.rhsoft.net (Authenticated sender: h.reindl@thelounge.net) by mail.thelounge.net (THELOUNGE MTA) with ESMTPSA id 3ytFlF17R1zXMN for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2017 02:54:17 +0100 (CET) To: internals@lists.php.net References: <91639df6-4fbd-a649-6558-7ae9130020ff@telia.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 02:54:16 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <91639df6-4fbd-a649-6558-7ae9130020ff@telia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: de-CH Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Explicit call-site send-by-ref syntax From: lists@rhsoft.net ("lists@rhsoft.net") Am 08.12.2017 um 01:38 schrieb Björn Larsson: > Den 2017-12-06 kl. 20:49, skrev Nikita Popov: > >> Hi internals, >> >> I'd like propose optional support for explicitly marking by-reference >> argument passing at the call-site, in addition to the declaration-site: >> >>      https://wiki.php.net/rfc/explicit_send_by_ref >> >> In short, while currently we have >> >>      function byRef(&$ref) {...} >>      byRef($var); >> >> this proposal would also allow >> >>      function byRef(&$ref) {...} >>      byRef(&$var); >> >> so that the use of by-reference passing is obvious without having to >> consult the function declaration. >> > I think this proposal has a good point about static analysers, > not just about human readability. > > A good static analyser is very helpful for eg migration projects > and if this proposal benefits that, it's a plus. Also using same > syntax for references like in other parts of the language has a > value. > > Now expressing the same thing in two different ways, with or > without & is confusing, so I think one needs to think about if > old syntax should be deprecated in 8.0 to get this consistent that would also require change every line of code calling core functions like sort instead of sort($array) as sort($array) i doubt that the benefits could justify the BC break