Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101234 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 69888 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2017 21:44:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Dec 2017 21:44:01 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=me@kelunik.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=me@kelunik.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain kelunik.com from 81.169.146.161 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: me@kelunik.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 81.169.146.161 mo4-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de Received: from [81.169.146.161] ([81.169.146.161:28984] helo=mo4-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A7/D4-28358-F91C52A5 for ; Mon, 04 Dec 2017 16:44:00 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1512423837; s=domk; d=kelunik.com; h=Content-Type:Cc:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:From:References: In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH:Accept-Language: Auto-Submitted:Cc:Date:From:Message-ID:References:Reply-To:Resent-Cc: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-To:Sender:Subject:To: Content-Alternative:Content-Description:Content-Disposition: Content-Duration:Content-Features:Content-ID:Content-Language: Content-Location:Content-MD5:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version; bh=coVfOrVbJV2gPTtGq0pO4tx3phOSIdxUr+hum+6zTxU=; b=vnnXqHjWaL6EKXd5fMppfNBTLggB3limqlmSSqz7gRguyt7A18LMz7wbfF4GVkW4aG 6bRX62Z9kN81LB394SH/P6QjOuNTi/TocjVmls6ffrhyAoLAavb+SlGDiv/z2hDuxzfz QW6yMdZ9FhPW4wCa3sCC0wWn3/oMMy2Q3v9UI= X-RZG-AUTH: :IWkkfkWkbvHsXQGmRYmUo9mlsGbEv0XHBzMIJSS+jKTzde5mDb8Db2nURiuwcA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Received: by mail-yw0-f177.google.com with SMTP id n25so7281306ywh.10 for ; Mon, 04 Dec 2017 13:43:56 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX44PNqKPv/8zGjUqVo2PYcW4R88+PaEqMYQNGL1Ro01dprWZaiI vaP65+TArndEwObi9qwZHHsX8DmNhn7ctS+tHQk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMbW5OT77mNHhnEWpFMSQY8NE3EyEU/Pi6O4PbiOiQ09ZByszCeh7pzcfV+XzkJzSCOq+8GBM+23L8JdmhLNQHY= X-Received: by 10.129.95.193 with SMTP id t184mr11398915ywb.497.1512423836197; Mon, 04 Dec 2017 13:43:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.124.71 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 13:43:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <41630a4e-8772-bdfb-e859-831a36dc67ea@rhsoft.net> <9f3d28e1-cc6d-d5dc-da04-7e3791070be8@rhsoft.net> <35e8f8c5-8fe0-702b-f304-890cf902b390@rhsoft.net> Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 22:43:55 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: "lists@rhsoft.net" Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1146f86881c1ac055f8a9d04" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.2.0 Released From: me@kelunik.com (Niklas Keller) --001a1146f86881c1ac055f8a9d04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > and to be clear here: > > a client when connecting to a server configured like below has to respect > the cipher order of the server while > https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/ exists for years to give dministrators > of the server some help and which clients are using which cipher > Just minor nitpicking to get the facts right: A client does never respect the used cipher order of the server. A client offers a number of ciphers and the server chooses one of those, either based on its own order (preferred) or based on the client-preferred order. If you know other programs doing it better, research how they do it and propose a change to PHP please. Regards, Niklas --001a1146f86881c1ac055f8a9d04--