Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101106 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 20091 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2017 14:02:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Nov 2017 14:02:04 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@golemon.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@golemon.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (pb1.pair.com: domain golemon.com does not designate 209.85.216.180 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@golemon.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.180 mail-qt0-f180.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.180] ([209.85.216.180:49102] helo=mail-qt0-f180.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CD/D4-15386-75E030A5 for ; Wed, 08 Nov 2017 09:01:59 -0500 Received: by mail-qt0-f180.google.com with SMTP id f8so3391308qta.5 for ; Wed, 08 Nov 2017 06:01:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=golemon-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=91homhmVsfkcT/qN6ErNkdoYPZ26OWaCeABn7I3HsCs=; b=yoG1t6sAqEjdR6GgbPCJrkrZOyv7FEbH7CYdV0Nd5JEnxzeMO59VlRoc0HCojskgmg hqAdqmkVR0gg0eeP5uH6NHo78YTkUMZMo04z+ClnL7rZ54TRkGCNfMFEq+Rhq7IAngrQ 6wFfOEE8kKNq5Xn4WEms8JbsfgcOtXKh2AfkB04tZeWHTJhcmggae/yYC5WeCx9Wfcj5 li/7l36Ha8I0aueIbn+0aAPnOvJXgEOcwwwbWszMCyKMmJxfxiPbf+OupAeTRUpJeKzn CdiQOkEM4xrmWQeuGPLuq2dvYekqrr9zrG4c0bj3vuWtR0ftvZ7vBwav6AHbdNwDzcLC FNvQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=91homhmVsfkcT/qN6ErNkdoYPZ26OWaCeABn7I3HsCs=; b=l+WGrDJaGJMUewX0dQ4l5r2oMoKESdLUFyjm0FkV+YLo0mtlsAC9gW1OToFj8TkaL0 1LbCo9oksOpnG6UU+x8vCaU3Ljbm/6SaOStjKm/hlukrock65x2TpmD/sxRMmNBpViVD w65+uD0/vyvgCCTEZM52g+n35WONV6CRyrulNXnZznB9CgtGOJF4bPh4TgJy1MdZSvp0 k17ZswKBvaoiFxgbv4j2Y/K7eQgawOOb2LBSrnaFUACfFAPpA0Oh8UbqCaVGFS4tEHUY eIA1/IPZdjqnud1s4anSsmZIkZNpUbyQmr9/F8KjK61AnuYPj4AKAkSUdLOwlgVIlCUO 7LeQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX6pCYjF9IgheL2Y8VAqUG5JJQmpuBp+6OK5F5NVMYAXG/PAKyHI 0/7AiLSFVpTKbTf+S8sMxSzk43TtwUfRkvwRGA3lvBqG3ks= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+S3cXBNYkzq6zBM2S7s6V38Jx+BFye0wgH3C/Zx/s3k8GRNefMsv52cJmNVidYFf8H5snq19KYOj+r4/x7mM9k= X-Received: by 10.237.35.58 with SMTP id h55mr921824qtc.108.1510149716607; Wed, 08 Nov 2017 06:01:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: php@golemon.com Received: by 10.12.156.1 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Nov 2017 06:01:55 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [194.74.0.66] In-Reply-To: References: <077d8e99-3aac-c9ca-bce4-aa90c98ed075@heigl.org> <1510070893.27420.85.camel@ctankersley.com> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2017 09:01:55 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: QWfIbM6-v53b6jF0DgGX0EkLdYA Message-ID: To: Rasmus Lerdorf Cc: Chris , PHP internals , =?UTF-8?Q?Pedro_Magalh=C3=A3es?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP's mail servers suck From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon) On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > Our smtp servers are actually quite well maintained by Sascha and company. > This is a response from the mail server, with no mailing list software involved. This is a regular response covering years. This is response which has been reported to no effect. Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: dns; php-smtp2.php.net. (2a02:cb41::8, the server for the domain php.net.) Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Looks like spam to me. Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2017 04:49:54 -0800 (PST) Yay that Sacha dealt with a slew of spam, but that's irrelevant to the false-positives problem. If a sender using a php.net address can't send an email containing a php.net URL through php.net servers without looking like spam, then the configuration is broken. -Sara