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To: Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com>
Cc: Sara Golemon <pollita@php.net>, Chris <chris@ctankersley.com>, 
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP's mail servers suck
From: eli@eliw.com (Eli White)

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On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com> wrote:

>  I am sure Sascha and his team would love to see concrete examples
> (as in with full headers) of any messages rejected at the smtp level.
>

Next time I get one Rasmus I'll be happy to forward it on.  This is
definitely new news that someone is on top of it, and that's great.   About
a year ago (I'm guessing, would have to look through the list archives)
Myself, Ben Ramsey, and a few others were trying to work on getting things
fixed, and I was sharing a ton of bounces I was getting where the SMTP
server was rejecting emails I was sending incorrectly.  (An issue of
blocking me because of PBL but it was the Transient PBL that shouldn't lead
to a block).   Anyway, at the time it was mostly pushed off.  And those who
offered to step in, weren't given any direction to do so.

Glad to hear that there is a team working on it now.

Eli

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