Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101100 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 9392 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2017 12:36:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Nov 2017 12:36:43 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mkliewe@gmx.de; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mkliewe@gmx.de; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmx.de designates 212.227.15.15 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mkliewe@gmx.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.227.15.15 mout.gmx.net Received: from [212.227.15.15] ([212.227.15.15:51795] helo=mout.gmx.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D7/E2-15386-95AF20A5 for ; Wed, 08 Nov 2017 07:36:43 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.19] ([178.5.128.96]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M8laO-1eOTMI2ZJM-00C7I2 for ; Wed, 08 Nov 2017 13:36:38 +0100 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <077d8e99-3aac-c9ca-bce4-aa90c98ed075@heigl.org> <1510070893.27420.85.camel@ctankersley.com> <7b074035-57db-5e36-384e-147ad9d26489@gmx.de> <67f497ca-7704-2328-0319-83efb23a57bc@rhsoft.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2017 13:36:34 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <67f497ca-7704-2328-0319-83efb23a57bc@rhsoft.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: de-DE X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:RnxjEEPgqhZWFICjZYbRui2v3KE5S5YrwY2Gx/teO7mjg7aiDxQ oeHTI9UrxR67Uy7r++AJ6axKAAw+DuZJNfqwxLEjCrmeQfZIh9q8ZdwA6pgmef5Gd+lsk+U TWuIsKjsTRj09ju9eFc7lD6o9jLLWPu4JO3Etc1ZSQDLjRDj4NcMhJbmppgaWuv0aBeHwUz gFyehWXel9a360/q5qxkg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:/Xu22GqB+Q0=:end1tuOWgLSslEeCX2v0PU lurC73nMyS6a0XOAKXvxZEChLg+7xcpvANcjPiCyDW7+RV8uiQsrR27QQiL1Lnjdlkb0WTpI+ GDuXptv5Pz+QD1medvHI6ZjGmC8Smu93QZ9mP8vZYK2FQ7BaQIclF/ceOh50LLEpTT1K9RKOR GAsGNbSCdCSHTO7Hov9OX/E9AT50SRL0291NwSN/TMNRzIGgkEIAHGLTnAQeeyse6FvecTnfB iPy+iszUy5Pg5oAoON+4WOCL5nWOhMzM+92hHgkNsVbujD8rk8opNximnrP0eCLhTVOHjdUoD 77yAMEoZa5YCXW5jrmQyPwzmqI9Nazhyea/JaQiWTpG7cP4V/a+7rB2xTF1Nppi7hZhtMtxjK sQEsW1mmUn761iEVltODGuaKKx0qo13Rgbug23quMQOYUxybjh/vQ1k20d2Okg6DFY0072+33 BIxK6aifWrwEllgU3+Mfqv50cTKPrsqbNs6dMZnvViUTj+V6wKWeae1e1O2F6zl03ljQhhQMw 9EdCEmp8yAf1ORSmHAWYPHZxthXOXW4kBHzP6FprFlFsvtdJU+YU6gBDke3D0wx3/ExIZqXW2 sTatVzgdzzH78ZQzOm6EVIlX5tQ7wga1O4B+JUSfaJKeJhdu/1MrkicYnXn6d8kKNIRGvHzAZ WeKfPuacj5xwrQVwaHyOZtt3NiAXBT4mqIQczKrHd/iK79Q9Pw6e6aosfdLuKtKsB7IcK4lPf liqkvUXUu5Jg8+xR+K5PgipKSHVsDicYnk+08AUmFno0XxTysjgjlKIGIIp98O4bjUGSA0Uo7 bYVP/g8S/4eTDmxTkBJWLOUO94EMG6fg7WkTrSZg6HR0NIumQI= Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP's mail servers suck From: mkliewe@gmx.de (Michael Kliewe) Am 08.11.2017 um 13:27 schrieb lists@rhsoft.net: > > > Am 08.11.2017 um 12:59 schrieb Michael Kliewe: >> The PHP mailing list software is not configured DMARC compliant. DMARC >> means, either SPF or DKIM has to be valid. The PHP mailing list changes >> the Subject (it adds [PHP-xxxx]), that's why the DKIM signature breaks. >> SPF breaks, because Gmail and others don't include the IP address of the >> PHP mailing list mailserver in their SPF records. So SPF also fails. > > nonsense - a mailing list does not forward with the original envelope > > Return-Path: internals-return-101098-lists=rhsoft.net@lists.php.net > Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=76.75.200.58; >  helo=lists.php.net; nonsense. Read about DMARC alignment I was talking about the From: header. I just wanted to explain a bit, not in every detail (DMARC alignment for example). No need to be rude. Michael