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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP's mail servers suck
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Am 08.11.2017 um 12:59 schrieb Michael Kliewe:
> The PHP mailing list software is not configured DMARC compliant. DMARC
> means, either SPF or DKIM has to be valid. The PHP mailing list changes
> the Subject (it adds [PHP-xxxx]), that's why the DKIM signature breaks.
> SPF breaks, because Gmail and others don't include the IP address of the
> PHP mailing list mailserver in their SPF records. So SPF also fails.

nonsense - a mailing list does not forward with the original envelope

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