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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2017 08:51:11 +0100
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP's mail servers suck
From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf)

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On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Pedro Magalh=C3=A3es <mail@pmmaga.net> wrot=
e:

> I'm not sure if the people who have access to the machines follow this
> mailing list as well, so I would suggest reaching out directly to the
> people listed as having access to the mailing lists machine (you can find
> that list here: https://wiki.php.net/systems/pb1).
>
> Also, there seems to be a systems@ mailing list as well (mentioned here:
> https://externals.io/message/97214) which may yield some actual response
> from the people involved.
>

Just saw this thread today. Yes, Pedro is right, infrastructure discussion
belongs on systems@ not internals.

So please send your volunteer requests there, but not just a generic offer
to help. Please include a concrete description of what you plan on doing.
As in which software or configuration changes. If it is just replace ezmlm
with Mailman, then you are going to have to make a really really strong
case for why you think a sideways migration like that will make any
difference. It is also important to understand the difference between the
list server and the mail server responsibilities.

-Rasmus

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