Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101094 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 89080 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2017 07:12:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Nov 2017 07:12:03 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=peter.e.lind@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=peter.e.lind@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.223.181 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: peter.e.lind@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.223.181 mail-io0-f181.google.com Received: from [209.85.223.181] ([209.85.223.181:49795] helo=mail-io0-f181.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FF/20-15386-F3EA20A5 for ; Wed, 08 Nov 2017 02:12:00 -0500 Received: by mail-io0-f181.google.com with SMTP id n137so4905099iod.6 for ; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 23:11:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=SquP3EBd0xuVZx6MUzJ/VxCUzsF3PaXQ3HCaZuMnlVM=; b=DOUTxKw2p367LRQbF7a1Ka28FuRIe//C5uEvRo3duzTdVXfbZWcqQI7QyaPzH/DeYa qI1P6wSyy8s+kyEmCkA+/jTPJxkT3qzML/ywZOika/YL6Pb84tK1saKNV0WQT4kjwwZK y5aIzdlHfWQtC+KOH6qGFtMZXIk2/oJ5x8WC0DKe8CLEaciP1eE+EW1whYbJEXRQFv+0 AcAxxELBibPaTxgaij9jiSB+S90mevZ0e6rMQ2j/0bSSQF9JdqiK9DkgzJu6v8jouo9O CFHkSlLuGtvXN8RT+yDMXk4gfu18ljOrrudHkkYgLvFz9Y5oVM2Pmy88qzD7vR8AFvDY J4og== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=SquP3EBd0xuVZx6MUzJ/VxCUzsF3PaXQ3HCaZuMnlVM=; b=Kx2CaOcQdzc9vZbNmBcfhjG4jZHhpw4PQ2y32425gg7yaE5qrbkBB0oMf6Wcw7EaZp MXMr5HauOLe3ZfL6iIoahvxjd1J0vv7uLchs7x0V20fC7AYE86wAIO6z8Fd67aubtmH3 nJj9F2IykcSdyOusmAGsv3k3pWWCjILMMTdWDaQhMlUH60dfCxGJBRhEnHfb3OnkYNcU Px6p43k2azjVMK7WPnJBNafAV/Rbsv2lGd78tzEjJfOtjv9FAbPTduNP+jVB5Wbfyvuf Urib8Tsu0oIMUbYxZKuRbBds0QcB5Nleq8LzTozjtgikxTJVWh9k65PrhCNm333e0Ztm EtjQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX7HNQCHok/3hb8Lm7gzAPKZNBfZRh1eRvu9RHktShJ+AIfSg6y4 OvuMOyFWDrXzpCcuiFYK7RUfShQqagBOOM2n/qDczA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMZbuwQGPFyr2/p7SF6tuQwj+tXnYP7/PDJwyqMZFRLNw4/VCB3WnXdudAa60GdaerbaefHqyOQ1LAkY7IgtzXE= X-Received: by 10.107.143.200 with SMTP id r191mr1674840iod.172.1510125115314; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 23:11:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.2.94.199 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Nov 2017 23:11:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2017 08:11:34 +0100 Message-ID: To: Eli White Cc: Sara Golemon , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c059cfa1097be055d7367b7" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP's mail servers suck From: peter.e.lind@gmail.com (Peter Lind) --94eb2c059cfa1097be055d7367b7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On 7 Nov 2017 16:40, "Eli White" wrote: On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Peter Lind wrote: > Might be worth noting that fixing the mailing lists does not amount to > taking on the php.net mail servers. The two are separate - just in case > someone should be up for one, but not both tasks. > In this case I believe that they are one and the same Peter. As the issues with the mailing list(s), are actually issues with the mail server itself. You might be right, but as far as I can tell, the lists server handles receiving and sending for lists.php.net without the use of PHP.net. The only issue outside of lists.php.net would be DNS, but that's handled externally - the rest is handled on the lists server, by some derelict mailing list software. That's also what previous discussions on the topic bring up. --94eb2c059cfa1097be055d7367b7--