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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 15:07:56 +0100
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To: Eli White <eli@eliw.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP's mail servers suck
From: peter.e.lind@gmail.com (Peter Lind)

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Might be worth noting that fixing the mailing lists does not amount to
taking on the php.net mail servers. The two are separate - just in case
someone should be up for one, but not both tasks.

On 7 November 2017 at 14:48, Eli White <eli@eliw.com> wrote:

> Just chiming in that I have constantly had issues (since you asked for
> hands), get emails denied (let's see if this one goes through), and
> semi-constant threads of being auto-removed because of bounces that have
> nothing to do with me (see above gmail discussion).
>
> Yeah, it sucks.  And it's been brought up in the past.  And invariably it
> all falls back to "Oh, only one person really knew how to maintain that
> random mail server and they aren't active anymore, and now no-one really
> does, so it just keeps running and no-one wants to take the effort to try
> to update/fix/move it"
>
> Eli
>
> PS. Not it
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 8:38 AM, Sara Golemon <pollita@php.net> wrote:
>
> > Biweekly reminder that PHP mail servers suck.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Sara Golemon <pollita@php.net> wrote:
> > > Quick show of hands: Who's had a "looks like spam" bounce from php.net
> > > mail servers in the past... lets say the past month.
> > > Or how about the fact that new users tend to have a very hard time
> > > even subscribing to this list?
> > > This isn't directed at any one person because AFAICT, the maintainer
> > > of those systems is "nobody".
> > > Is it time to pick someone to actually maintain that pile of mierde?
> > > Maybe replace the pieces that haven't worked since the 90s?
> > >
> > > Fed up with something this basic not working,
> > > -Sara
> >
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> >
>



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