Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101078 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 21797 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2017 11:08:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Nov 2017 11:08:21 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php-lists@koalephant.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php-lists@koalephant.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain koalephant.com designates 206.123.115.54 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php-lists@koalephant.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 206.123.115.54 mail1.25mail.st Received: from [206.123.115.54] ([206.123.115.54:33044] helo=mail1.25mail.st) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 94/CF-09857-324910A5 for ; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 06:08:20 -0500 Received: from [10.0.1.29] (unknown [49.48.244.96]) by mail1.25mail.st (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AF8DA60331; Tue, 7 Nov 2017 11:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (15B93) In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 18:08:09 +0700 Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <562E5C38-B46B-449D-8676-8699B59DDE4E@koalephant.com> References: <64.21.07742.EF158F95@pb1.pair.com> <71.50.09857.3BBEAF95@pb1.pair.com> <6643d10b-8703-693c-15c2-da338022ef41@rhsoft.net> <18.19.09857.3E54CF95@pb1.pair.com> <941fd347-4a17-78b6-1bd7-4a5519aa722b@rhsoft.net> <67.8E.09857.7D58DF95@pb1.pair.com> <6A.75.09857.9F6EEF95@pb1.pair.com> <55fb932f-7f61-33eb-1fd9-aa425bc6ff27@rhsoft.net> <748869f7-13bb-5bdd-6fec-399a33b790b3@rhsoft.net> To: Tony Marston Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: RFC - Array Of for PHP 7 From: php-lists@koalephant.com (Stephen Reay) > On 7 Nov 2017, at 17:21, Tony Marston wrote: >=20 > I was around when that happened, so I know what I'm talking about. I'm not going to get into the whole "it can be done in userland why do we ne= ed it in core" debate, because honestly that's a silly discussion to have wh= en you don't have any planned implementation to discuss the merits of. The only reason I wanted to respond was your last line, quoted above. Being "around" when something happens means zero as far as credibility or kn= owledge. The captain of the titanic was "around" when it sank.