Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101059 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 70541 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2017 00:21:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Nov 2017 00:21:40 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.176 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.176 mail-pf0-f176.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.176] ([209.85.192.176:55284] helo=mail-pf0-f176.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 95/A3-09857-1995EF95 for ; Sat, 04 Nov 2017 19:21:40 -0500 Received: by mail-pf0-f176.google.com with SMTP id n89so5000030pfk.11 for ; Sat, 04 Nov 2017 17:21:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iEbvtYZWQ28RrEAk9LAGGMIQIeohy0knN04R+PEEkzY=; b=p62JUDCqK92vqCwcA2pT2tnM6k6serCOe1nEsHX2YdgqOsnFCMGWD0UcUz1PyBPHBU mDUjuFOhyw0sU2o9vtIqiWQ5ME/mUxSjrRPdHiAS2zXWq8v2CM+KE2CEgh5L9tSyAxj3 Z6s7nzdDgQAaOpxPhUlCTmKeGWubXkl8J+YyLkWKHNmIJQ1iNL5AerttDZWv6XSILI3R Qm+u+GmK2XjxsBHeAmp9o6NBvjfLVKsMmuafwVtmiRTU+DWTD8ZjfNpQQq7U3hT9bkeM HtvJginKB8Yy9gXBQm7jcHezKoa6YBHXrfPajnHb9T79JIi8Jq191C0WBEJy6bn5MUQS nufw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=iEbvtYZWQ28RrEAk9LAGGMIQIeohy0knN04R+PEEkzY=; b=HaBjBTYnjTg4wKyVhZd55SXu/y2nZcA+OdnukxQ77Z1ES8u1zRRN2XJ0kcGPkbWy0d +LqWhFY+r7xqDvmt1d+HgMeIn+07qkBxrwT+H3Q/+YbvhKpLg6Dd3txuX5/dnOF38AXg CBz2gSMaFKJDyKwaK4O0eoE321eWD1lVSDKxPdm8H/Okemp8PzhxQ+70HA445BaZSee6 u8v4Uth4lE0chuweiRs8epq0miVM8J1XGJocdOEGJKV274CdX18t7kkoOadXPju/cZtZ 7cg6ZcOhdOTeT/pMDm39zeNFlIXngTiwTCyYZpAwvOTGch6NqCjOAxjTIH11VloTAV+a ngyQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaX3HImnI9K53Nnt9DaTVxr38N7MW2TWE/wcwpSbODmsqohdUdNr ecPrtO3H4o1JdS3JNv3nzA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+RnyZ8EcnEZjleQIf0MozMFhcTBKApbZOCdt7Bz9TBIhA7ZO5Vw5Dv2Mkdg+hkbrqp2bPY3dw== X-Received: by 10.159.235.142 with SMTP id f14mr10717624plr.450.1509841294422; Sat, 04 Nov 2017 17:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Stas-Pro-2016.lan (c-73-71-144-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [73.71.144.171]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l79sm17106930pfb.33.2017.11.04.17.21.33 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 04 Nov 2017 17:21:33 -0700 (PDT) To: internals@lists.php.net, Fleshgrinder , Nikita Popov References: <93a05192-ed34-2164-50f9-2799899b32d1@fleshgrinder.com> <4ee3d414-92e1-75c7-402f-16a37ed3016b@fleshgrinder.com> Message-ID: <3f093ce2-e00e-f210-6e35-de31eb2f4b07@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2017 17:21:32 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4ee3d414-92e1-75c7-402f-16a37ed3016b@fleshgrinder.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Constants and Access Modifiers From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > My wording was maybe a bit wrong here, and I was biased by the fact that > I would like to see abstract constants. The fact that not everything can What is "abstract constant"? If you need something that can change, just use a method. Constant is meant to be a nice way to write something inherently constant, such as instead of "/very long (and+)cubmber|some?*regexp/" you'd write NICE_REGEXP_CONSTANT. But it's not supposed to create parallel inheritance structure or something. If it needs to be non-constant, just use a method. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com