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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: RFC - Array Of for PHP 7
From: TonyMarston@hotmail.com ("Tony Marston")

wrote in message news:941fd347-4a17-78b6-1bd7-4a5519aa722b@rhsoft.net...
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>Am 03.11.2017 um 11:33 schrieb Tony Marston:
>> wrote in message news:6643d10b-8703-693c-15c2-da338022ef41@rhsoft.net...
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>>> Am 02.11.2017 um 10:55 schrieb Tony Marston:
>>>> "Kalle Sommer Nielsen"  wrote in message
>>>>> I fail to see how it offers "negative benefits to the vast number of
>>>>> programmers who are happy with the language as it currently exists", I
>>>>
>>>> If it's put into the language then it affects 100% of the users, but 
>>>> what percentage of the user base would actually take advantage of this 
>>>> feature? If it's only 1% then for the other 99% it's a complete waste 
>>>> of time
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>>> how does any feature you don't use affect you?
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>> Because the language itself becomes bloated with the capabilities it has 
>> to offer, look for and deal with. This makes it bigger and slower
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>unproven claim!

It's pure common sense! You have to carry around the capability of doing 
something, then have tests everywhere to see if that capability is actually 
required or not at run-time.

There is a big difference between adding something to the language core 
which everyone has to load into memory, and having something in an extension 
which is entirely optional.

>or why did 5.3, 5.4, 5.5 and 5.6 not speaking about 7.0/7.1 *all* have new 
>features and where *faster* then the previous version - frankly you are 
>raising alarm for no reason

PHP 7 is faster than PHP 5 for various reasons, such as it being 64bit 
instead of 32bit, and improvements made to the engine itself, such as the 
AST. I submit that it would be smaller and faster if it did not have to 
carry around so much dross. Adding something to the core language just to 
save a few keystrokes for a small number of lazy developers falls into the 
category of dross.

-- 
Tony Marston