Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:100948 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 9704 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2017 21:17:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Oct 2017 21:17:22 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=aidantwoods@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=aidantwoods@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.215.49 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: aidantwoods@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.49 mail-lf0-f49.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.49] ([209.85.215.49:49024] helo=mail-lf0-f49.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 3A/2E-58908-E5FF0F95 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 17:17:20 -0400 Received: by mail-lf0-f49.google.com with SMTP id a69so1488936lfe.5 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 14:17:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=dvgwDBD2JWLNrvBQIU8Ak1a/jC9FzsQvkdb7+JHTEGM=; b=Civ8v3+aw72/0vOYolm46SyPMXiZmKFieOXDxgiEWxTlb/aYhMnpzBpVJZvT2CTwVB zyem0TaFYNo8JqLizq55FnrI2vSEJXo+6L2maPgW25xfhagKQeGhdMGu+eNO8k3C440M dpn9uYrPXB6cdPAeLyE/IM/D3eVRGKRPRAy2zOsfok0ivm6IeQeAZB9XZHoO0DCa2Hyb ipE6cpUt26PPj8xE4jDm+hVp3i3unzPJCRhhlr8ufKfweW6wCIoEjqhwCu5hECNdnxMn QZYPPsiSawFAGxiSKAqPFkFftcnDCy8EK1qHZcCs5dn1oE/kh3zBB++WnwzyiosKG9Ay VVoA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=dvgwDBD2JWLNrvBQIU8Ak1a/jC9FzsQvkdb7+JHTEGM=; b=NN1QdgJR9CH+RLAsTC9d2OM1DO5xNbMDXplgPcg9y83GGMlFxfq9gA2w8uR/ATn9cG sKRq5THP00b9DPK3dfNB/1MZN0PdE10ZR5tP1G7E9HSWryNLeM4brpy3kZxd/ONeC7b7 PEYtCdCcHhnuPQ86aZ6ek5FagdOOEK0k2akth1VAgQJ5fBGigDxIvD8tgos6K6nh6oJp BfzE1qQNZHoaOIKMbvWtfMOhYNEyYB8npodmqrfzSqOGeqvye/8/aZxgXJ7YV3xU9dIU PIjkQYjg5fI+77Od3B3kAedHarSaCF5ShxMSiROlXvoJT3nfdS627qw5df6EFNDmuITd 1bxg== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaXQ7DdeQgv6KCbMjSp2UZvZdvO95/Ci5tskh2zVmW8LOOF46t1J NgU7GSLpLzJ81qQFbnCkr8152cqU6cxkyuJJOLoDxPJZ X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+Qv9YM4pxyeNgWG40Guwd/w1tu5tZLuippp2BgoXGmS/xdaG4t9Foao+g7j7Si+yHQ8MUHJxR/16b+LJ7vAp74= X-Received: by 10.46.89.199 with SMTP id g68mr9202012ljf.12.1508966235303; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 14:17:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.46.42.196 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 14:17:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3a052773-7f00-9988-26a0-2d0a50b77838@evermeet.cx> References: <55280a2a-9ef5-7be8-c922-31d166a78972@evermeet.cx> <3a052773-7f00-9988-26a0-2d0a50b77838@evermeet.cx> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 22:17:14 +0100 Message-ID: To: "Helmut K. C. Tessarek" Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c082cbe6ef493055c659420" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP's mail servers suck From: aidantwoods@gmail.com (Aidan Woods) --94eb2c082cbe6ef493055c659420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > anyways, don't reject mailing-list messages I don't reject the messages, Google rejects the messages because of failed DMARC requirements. See support[.]google[.]com/mail/answer/2451690 The error occurs when the php mailing list attempts to forward messages from a domain which has a (likey strict) DMARC policy, and sends emails as if it was the sender from the domain holding that policy. In any case, despite failed delivery due to the policy being an issue =E2= =80=93 it would be great if I wouldn't be unsubscribed from the mailing list because of an error that has nothing to do with me =F0=9F=A4=B7=E2=80=8D=E2=99=82= =EF=B8=8F On 25 October 2017 at 21:22, Helmut K. C. Tessarek wrote: > On 2017-10-25 15:38, Aidan Woods wrote: > > I occasionally get emails from the mailing list bot warning I'll be > > auto-unsubscribed because messages it is sending to me are are bouncing= . > > (It sends me back the bounce notification it received, so I can see tha= t > > the cause is failed DMARC signing requirements on messages from a certa= in > > domain). I attempted to forward the bounced email text to > > internals-owner@lists[.]php[.]net (which was listed in the email as the > > owner of the bot) along with a link to Google's support page on why it > > failed. I was unable to make contact because the forwarded message > > inevitably contained URLs and IPs both in my text and in the forwarded > > bounce mail, and so I ran into multiple "looks like spam" warnings. > > Yep, got these too. I have a sieve rule now which discards these > messages. (They became quite irritating after a while.) > > Sending a mail to internals-owner did not work either and when I wrote > to the list, I got a lot of replies and berating messages that I should > send this email to the mailing list owner. What a joke. > > -- > regards Helmut K. C. Tessarek KeyID 0xF7832007C11F128D > Key fingerprint =3D 28A3 1666 4FE8 D72C CFD5 8B23 F783 2007 C11F 128D > > /* > Thou shalt not follow the NULL pointer for chaos and madness > await thee at its end. > */ > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --94eb2c082cbe6ef493055c659420--