Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:100945 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 3369 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2017 20:22:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Oct 2017 20:22:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tessarek@evermeet.cx; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tessarek@evermeet.cx; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain evermeet.cx designates 77.244.245.66 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tessarek@evermeet.cx X-Host-Fingerprint: 77.244.245.66 evermeet.cx Received: from [77.244.245.66] ([77.244.245.66:47861] helo=atvie01s.evermeet.cx) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C2/1D-58908-B92F0F95 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 16:22:53 -0400 Received: from [10.0.0.42] (23-233-10-186.cpe.pppoe.ca [23.233.10.186]) (authenticated bits=0) by atvie01s.evermeet.cx (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v9PKMkHg008113 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 22:22:47 +0200 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 atvie01s.evermeet.cx v9PKMkHg008113 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=evermeet.cx; s=default; t=1508962968; bh=X1Scxqdx/nh/Dse83INtZbf6D/r/402bbhbugJf5Z04=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=sdEjjc5XaHkeMks86k2JxRASuE8cksx436NVKFRl27A6vdpd+2B6f3cA9FGqxxEhp 3ftDKgjHkorjgT8jxB9mFGGBhkh5DGUF5P5k+6cwuEXp/8cQI1KxeAgkPPeiJG8Yv1 RSodRMBj7h0JKezxB7JG32TrFaKAfgIf+kg97JkA= To: internals@lists.php.net References: <55280a2a-9ef5-7be8-c922-31d166a78972@evermeet.cx> Message-ID: <3a052773-7f00-9988-26a0-2d0a50b77838@evermeet.cx> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 16:22:46 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP's mail servers suck From: tessarek@evermeet.cx ("Helmut K. C. Tessarek") On 2017-10-25 15:38, Aidan Woods wrote: > I occasionally get emails from the mailing list bot warning I'll be > auto-unsubscribed because messages it is sending to me are are bouncing. > (It sends me back the bounce notification it received, so I can see that > the cause is failed DMARC signing requirements on messages from a certain > domain). I attempted to forward the bounced email text to > internals-owner@lists[.]php[.]net (which was listed in the email as the > owner of the bot) along with a link to Google's support page on why it > failed. I was unable to make contact because the forwarded message > inevitably contained URLs and IPs both in my text and in the forwarded > bounce mail, and so I ran into multiple "looks like spam" warnings. Yep, got these too. I have a sieve rule now which discards these messages. (They became quite irritating after a while.) Sending a mail to internals-owner did not work either and when I wrote to the list, I got a lot of replies and berating messages that I should send this email to the mailing list owner. What a joke. -- regards Helmut K. C. Tessarek KeyID 0xF7832007C11F128D Key fingerprint = 28A3 1666 4FE8 D72C CFD5 8B23 F783 2007 C11F 128D /* Thou shalt not follow the NULL pointer for chaos and madness await thee at its end. */