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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 20:38:36 +0100
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To: "Helmut K. C. Tessarek" <tessarek@evermeet.cx>
Cc: Sara Golemon <pollita@php.net>, PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP's mail servers suck
From: aidantwoods@gmail.com (Aidan Woods)

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To throw something else on the heap of things that need fixing in the mail
servers:
I occasionally get emails from the mailing list bot warning I'll be
auto-unsubscribed because messages it is sending to me are are bouncing.
(It sends me back the bounce notification it received, so I can see that
the cause is failed DMARC signing requirements on messages from a certain
domain). I attempted to forward the bounced email text to
internals-owner@lists[.]php[.]net (which was listed in the email as the
owner of the bot) along with a link to Google's support page on why it
failed. I was unable to make contact because the forwarded message
inevitably contained URLs and IPs both in my text and in the forwarded
bounce mail, and so I ran into multiple "looks like spam" warnings.

If anyone wants to debug this I can forward the emails I've got (though
obviously I can't send them via this mailing list because of domains
contained in the text =F0=9F=A4=B7=E2=80=8D=E2=99=82=EF=B8=8F)

On 25 October 2017 at 17:05, Helmut K. C. Tessarek <tessarek@evermeet.cx>
wrote:

> On 2017-10-25 10:30, Sara Golemon wrote:
> > Quick show of hands: Who's had a "looks like spam" bounce from
> > php.net mail servers in the past... lets say the past month.
>
> Not last month, but in the past. Quite often actually.
>
> > This isn't directed at any one person because AFAICT, the maintainer
> >  of those systems is "nobody".
>
> When I mentioned years ago that there was a problem with the mail
> server, people on this list became very agressive.
>
> I even stopped writing to this list for this exact reason. People on
> this list tend to react with hostility, when they hear something they
> don't like or don't agree with.
>
> Good luck.
>
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