Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:100941 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 86727 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2017 16:05:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Oct 2017 16:05:39 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tessarek@evermeet.cx; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tessarek@evermeet.cx; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain evermeet.cx designates 77.244.245.66 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tessarek@evermeet.cx X-Host-Fingerprint: 77.244.245.66 evermeet.cx Received: from [77.244.245.66] ([77.244.245.66:47075] helo=atvie01s.evermeet.cx) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1C/1B-58908-056B0F95 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 12:05:39 -0400 Received: from [10.0.0.42] (23-233-10-186.cpe.pppoe.ca [23.233.10.186]) (authenticated bits=0) by atvie01s.evermeet.cx (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v9PG5Wcl022990 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 25 Oct 2017 18:05:33 +0200 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 atvie01s.evermeet.cx v9PG5Wcl022990 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=evermeet.cx; s=default; t=1508947533; bh=T219OPam9Kre2LPLFvMVTZUeZ79PDVul1l0AS9NriPE=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Q4tbtUEAZMCGsDyAmpDBabqnVPHNfOlasBLEbUkegPjHUWxGw60CqeqlI8ZGWe1Tk 0fOi30U40gPktdSmPBryBU0xuihCGMdLoFwJK9m8BEeASVVZlXkQ4uAV+fK07bcShs nGqTlixJT+scZ6TmYQ8A7KSBM4/cdNEHA7ItkX9U= To: Sara Golemon , PHP internals References: Message-ID: <55280a2a-9ef5-7be8-c922-31d166a78972@evermeet.cx> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 12:05:31 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP's mail servers suck From: tessarek@evermeet.cx ("Helmut K. C. Tessarek") On 2017-10-25 10:30, Sara Golemon wrote: > Quick show of hands: Who's had a "looks like spam" bounce from > php.net mail servers in the past... lets say the past month. Not last month, but in the past. Quite often actually. > This isn't directed at any one person because AFAICT, the maintainer > of those systems is "nobody". When I mentioned years ago that there was a problem with the mail server, people on this list became very agressive. I even stopped writing to this list for this exact reason. People on this list tend to react with hostility, when they hear something they don't like or don't agree with. Good luck. -- regards Helmut K. C. Tessarek KeyID 0xF7832007C11F128D Key fingerprint = 28A3 1666 4FE8 D72C CFD5 8B23 F783 2007 C11F 128D /* Thou shalt not follow the NULL pointer for chaos and madness await thee at its end. */