Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:100682 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 62942 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2017 18:09:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Sep 2017 18:09:51 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@golemon.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@golemon.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (pb1.pair.com: domain golemon.com does not designate 209.85.216.182 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@golemon.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.182 mail-qt0-f182.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.182] ([209.85.216.182:54603] helo=mail-qt0-f182.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 54/46-19300-EE86DB95 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2017 14:09:51 -0400 Received: by mail-qt0-f182.google.com with SMTP id i13so4592709qtc.11 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2017 11:09:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=golemon-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=so4TKrQYSNBu2aVKXPbd41Lo9LM0oNbhdr6dMk8JhZQ=; b=IgRWaW/tqCDTQ+7Z7BqXj91/hVK9q5f/POuIaEN1eSUyOHMjxHfKn2rujzTYJ00Uzs 604GoP2SPDTT6Xk6xFzWyGG+YlQMzarEFJ4rqmVZVqDU2qbOIqjmRno8YvrWXTUnzmBZ wX6B1PFUPe6mVCN1QhpzeZd17npbBRsz3qZKFc1cS6CaAKBZZ1G4JqTjf3sd2Ua7oxl6 0M8/Dp1yozbuIzAWZNkRINx1E58vLaxloWiyE9tn7F4gm7afnBisy4DazYhfou5uHt0N MvKDSuISpSbcChm162MupmJQ25ToIge4371U4hZ2NKiRQrsDF22L9+5kE3g4uuiLdXTb 0/dA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=so4TKrQYSNBu2aVKXPbd41Lo9LM0oNbhdr6dMk8JhZQ=; b=bNafYdI46EJRC/pjSLuByW6zJIW1dbnQ0wtorAG97OrkvxSDFmI8lubUZq60wvUVgw vBh4ACw4P2d6VgDP/8uVziF9aPcjcvEUwvGxCT5E+qvV3KJwfJ1ivTxRuMsNy5OCO2ts d1z/tJgYhl27/e11vXHGMG1ZtvNY7WdxLthesyH/DuLwPsAqlVLs6rIZZmti3e2HekeB 2tGk2Hr4LFhK1oQwtvVuoaih0UclFNuKm20SRzn+acigIFQJOzAbJ7oSiOthtK6JFZCd d+BZsa3PwdkVcBOrA75kMAPh10WTjXgBREKw3xP7Keo/A/dJRFVZC22HYyU/Ns92MJpE EcLQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUg0f3Iq8vfov4yn6QBD3Jv3/61ntNu9ru+rxAQUZ/uP+5AbPsEN XhK3H2GoQNQmjhg3H1nZuJk+Yw+BDe5OnqIcHc/0DQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QBuBGjz3PDv0tVjeyuKVLWeWq9BqkZ0Bi8CLbZUPSaG/TSgX7hvZX23SMaWv4nbnGr3tWe5sM+hTCwVX01SwQs= X-Received: by 10.237.44.34 with SMTP id f31mr18697128qtd.252.1505585388263; Sat, 16 Sep 2017 11:09:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: php@golemon.com Received: by 10.12.132.3 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Sep 2017 11:09:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [71.251.16.204] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 14:09:46 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: xGuoIMV3Fs-fg8iuXcB9XlcIv44 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: "Christoph M. Becker" , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Deprecate and remove case-insensitive constants? From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon) On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > arguably, making all constants case insensitive > would in fact be the better solution > If they were truly case-insensitive, I might agree. However, as I've mentioned but will reiterate, they're not. They're ASCII case insensitive, and that's a long cry from real case-insensitivity. PHP 6 was planning to make case-insensitivity real but obviously that's dead and buried. This is ugly, but if I'm playing devil's advocate, it is consistent with the rest of the core runtime. -Sara