Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:100680 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 54642 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2017 16:01:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Sep 2017 16:01:02 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ilija.tovilo@me.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ilija.tovilo@me.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain me.com designates 17.172.220.114 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ilija.tovilo@me.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 17.172.220.114 st11p02im-asmtp002.me.com Received: from [17.172.220.114] ([17.172.220.114:33580] helo=st11p02im-asmtp002.me.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2B/F4-19300-BBA4DB95 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2017 12:01:01 -0400 Received: from process-dkim-sign-daemon.st11p02im-asmtp002.me.com by st11p02im-asmtp002.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.1.2.20170607 64bit (built Jun 7 2017)) id <0OWD00000QWVFX00@st11p02im-asmtp002.me.com> for internals@lists.php.net; Sat, 16 Sep 2017 16:00:47 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=me.com; s=04042017; t=1505577647; bh=iC04LVqlrCm8AXLnne80GQyNYs97B6pjKHbC8Mddt38=; h=Content-type:MIME-version:Subject:From:Date:Message-id:To; b=w20q5RnQtHBCqw9/qk0P1ObLC1DL7rqiW122QVOVim8t7iqHnsTIEyPKyYHY2sYGk 0CF1IGHRYz4KAk1DkREujzDJTTjVoWm8opf0uNCtFh9bY7eXsHzCRzE9IGpBhUALkp /m6lXXl7cePohJv9sRTDtLMx8anExvKA6TmIpEq6RcQX12QICZNme2Dye59201P+yX 0ir81Tst2YY2/3W3SaL/Xlm29nJXe83XiZaBg81dX/B8Bada9hn5lfMvrPtFhtH5Rm TqZm9bilTY7t2MAXfpqlIvT8aSjQ+a5ATnjBiAp7WoA9EsMChTdfYAavPfy4rs6A4d Of08d57O3xkNw== Received: from icloud.com ([127.0.0.1]) by st11p02im-asmtp002.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.1.2.20170607 64bit (built Jun 7 2017)) with ESMTPSA id <0OWD00NTNR57LK40@st11p02im-asmtp002.me.com>; Sat, 16 Sep 2017 16:00:47 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2017-09-16_08:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 suspectscore=2 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1707230000 definitions=main-1709160239 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 MIME-version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14G60) In-reply-to: <3cf36671-537b-ed7b-fd0d-6fd46bc3405c@developersdesk.com> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 18:00:42 +0200 Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <94FC5CE1-B486-44D5-A4F5-E4181C938372@me.com> References: <097578bf-ab74-44cf-a465-dc6fdd50930f@Spark> <7005b428-1615-46c5-a2aa-a7406c17eeeb@Spark> <5058525d-ac79-5179-f847-9cc1f82ae316@rhsoft.net> <3cf36671-537b-ed7b-fd0d-6fd46bc3405c@developersdesk.com> To: Rick Widmer Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate the extract function in PHP 7.3 From: ilija.tovilo@me.com (Ilija Tovilo) Again, tell me I'm wrong. I have no problem with that. After all I'd still n= eed 50%+ of people with voting privileges to agree with me which is rather u= nlikely if it has major flaws. I don't claim to know it all, you don't need to get rude for me to listen. A= s soon as you do that the discussion goes to shit. With that I'd like to end this discussion. Thanks to everybody who responded= ! If someone is interested in creating an RFC for a new option to throw on var= iable re-declaration, as it has been suggested, feel free. Regards > On 16. Sep 2017, at 17:41, Rick Widmer wrote: >=20 >> On 9/16/2017 3:50 AM, ilija.tovilo@me.com wrote: >> That=E2=80=99s fine, I have no problem with feedback. I changed my mind o= nce other people pointed out the flaws in my thinking. Politely. >> Sorry for spending my free time thinking about how to make PHP better. I=E2= =80=99m not claiming to be an expert in any means, hence the RFC. >=20 > If only it were making PHP better. It is only breaking existing code for n= o good reason. There have been way too many such suggestions recently. Tha= t is why you are getting such a strong reaction! >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >=20