Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:100612 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 83236 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2017 09:13:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Sep 2017 09:13:02 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 62.31.75.76 76.75-31-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk Received: from [62.31.75.76] ([62.31.75.76:28822] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 66/C9-19300-D999BB95 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2017 05:13:02 -0400 Message-ID: <66.C9.19300.D999BB95@pb1.pair.com> To: internals@lists.php.net References: <3D.0C.10715.383F8B95@pb1.pair.com> <1505382004.4078127.1105791680.3A06C2FA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <16.4C.19300.B2D7AB95@pb1.pair.com> <7394E3CE-B05A-474E-8AB5-A651FDD35232@gmail.com> <47.8F.19300.9988AB95@pb1.pair.com> <1505397937.4137791.1106049000.16B8878B@webmail.messagingengine.com> In-Reply-To: <1505397937.4137791.1106049000.16B8878B@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2017 10:12:55 +0100 Lines: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3564.1216 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V16.4.3564.1216 X-Posted-By: 62.31.75.76 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Deprecate and remove case-insensitive constants? From: TonyMarston@hotmail.com ("Tony Marston") "Daniel Morris" wrote in message news:1505397937.4137791.1106049000.16B8878B@webmail.messagingengine.com... > >On Thu, 14 Sep 2017, at 02:48 PM, Tony Marston wrote: >> Because the English-speaking world invented both computers and the >> languages used to program them. > >It was a German that invented binary, so my suggestion is to devolve all >future decisions to the Germans. Binary coding is not affected by changes in case so this argument is bogus. >On Thu, 14 Sep 2017, at 02:36 PM, Tony Marston wrote: >> The number of people in the world who use character sets which do >> not have this problem far outnumber those who use character sets >> which do have this problem. People without this problem far >> outnumber the others, so it would not be a good idea to >> inconvenience the many just to satisfy the few. > >You are nearly always a minority opinion, the irony of you writing this >whilst at the same time asking the world to slow down so that your >stubborn fourteen year old framework can catch up beggars belief. I am not asking the world to slow down because I am too lazy to change. I am arguing that case insensitive software has been around for many decades, and for some people to advocate for its removal just because they don't have the brain power to come up with a proper solution for a minor glitch that affects only a small number of languages I find unacceptable. A competent programmer would fix the problem that affects the few without removing a feature that the many are used to. -- Tony Marston