Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:100579 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 84217 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2017 12:14:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Sep 2017 12:14:01 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=remi@fedoraproject.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=remi@fedoraproject.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain fedoraproject.org from 217.70.183.196 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: remi@fedoraproject.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.70.183.196 relay4-d.mail.gandi.net Received: from [217.70.183.196] ([217.70.183.196:35457] helo=relay4-d.mail.gandi.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CB/7B-19300-6827AB95 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2017 08:14:00 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 90.109.33.61 Received: from builder.remirepo.net (LFbn-1-6328-61.w90-109.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.109.33.61]) (Authenticated sender: contact@ll-experts.com) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D6D5817209B for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2017 14:13:55 +0200 (CEST) To: internals@lists.php.net References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 14:13:52 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UAJK4iWFHnTOX38wXDhmCVXx5X3LhssBH" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discuss] Increase non-syntax runtime-impacting RFC voting threshold to 60% From: remi@fedoraproject.org (Remi Collet) --UAJK4iWFHnTOX38wXDhmCVXx5X3LhssBH Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="GaN8q31UIjtqnqLJQJ8dD060lB0XVgGSD"; protected-headers="v1" From: Remi Collet To: internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discuss] Increase non-syntax runtime-impacting RFC voting threshold to 60% References: In-Reply-To: --GaN8q31UIjtqnqLJQJ8dD060lB0XVgGSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le 13/09/2017 =C3=A0 22:42, Sara Golemon a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/rfc.voting-threshold >=20 > This topic has come up on the mailing list a few times, so I'd like to > formally open the topic for discussion. >=20 > I'm generally pretty liberal when it comes to allowing the PHP > language to evolve and explore its identity, but the truth is a > feature that has 30 people vote against it and 31 people vote in favor > of it is not a mandate by any stretch of the imagination. =20 +1, such result show we fail to have a good consensus, and that ~50% will be unhappy. So indeed, having a higher threshold seems a good idea. Remi > It's an > opportunity to examine why a divide exists and if we're all being > honest with each other, improve the original idea before it becomes a > maintenance burden. >=20 > Please note the "Open Question". I'm not all that sure 60% is enough > of a mandate either, but I wanted to be conservative in my > conservatism. If folks think 2/3 is more appropriate (and consistent > with syntax changes), I'm happy to change this number before we move > to voting phase. >=20 > -Sara >=20 > Or, as Ze'ev once famously said, "Give the language a rest". >=20 --GaN8q31UIjtqnqLJQJ8dD060lB0XVgGSD-- --UAJK4iWFHnTOX38wXDhmCVXx5X3LhssBH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlm6coMACgkQYUppBSnxahgYJgCfcaSM04pAIjB/zcZ17wAAc3et vIEAoNEujPAsQlVa26ue9S7+KsdmKu92 =9ylr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UAJK4iWFHnTOX38wXDhmCVXx5X3LhssBH--