Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:100567 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26042 invoked from network); 13 Sep 2017 20:42:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Sep 2017 20:42:38 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@golemon.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@golemon.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (pb1.pair.com: domain golemon.com does not designate 209.85.220.175 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@golemon.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.175 mail-qk0-f175.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.175] ([209.85.220.175:48862] helo=mail-qk0-f175.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 6D/05-19300-D3899B95 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 16:42:38 -0400 Received: by mail-qk0-f175.google.com with SMTP id a128so3377124qkc.5 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:42:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=golemon-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=iKWYcsaXZzhk+qh01VjV/rJeFGupG08mkvQsVY5e5IY=; b=VV4yC6zEEbWF1+2SX7+IERqg+aajfaYf1zupU1AMhfIXs7vYa5p5Q14c+AoA21Fe6g qO9LoGqys7H82+ihTVDwJwkpivEuCfoarln5cLUpXBopLYC/yxrj7u6UnjzA6qUWU0y+ xK7v9aCxBTSAtOe1g+6wCEU/uqSZBUu1824vVNzrAfpInti22NGQ7k2gPQdPRRdjChQT N53TzSXHQEut16kAT+QXQYe7zlBQ2LhvWauhwpjqtMmtywwReXTETiX3zzOQZNRJIWM8 YJOcoTBuJHPiVzyrE6DkQK+MWkrC2QYeb13YQ+T3Xfx3SbEwN8NElMymVEDJzZvFE5dS x3hA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject :to; bh=iKWYcsaXZzhk+qh01VjV/rJeFGupG08mkvQsVY5e5IY=; b=GjqOn5mENJvHuRmI5WCWpqixIT0c+me96HhA0RqYdqSoP/fB6r4LRezUL9GaIHhXqr U/+vXaSoQGZxQCa8olzyAv3DaKuOQrEGWnfMaWSRUi9MB63YHefymFn3cNTvagpzXzkD xAe/a+UdhRzyXRv95nQCM7pvhnPr2I3LqF0qXV+cg2YSbqLPlzo//XdxQR2WW2W9dzvJ z8fW1nttqqkVXYjYXlTXKWhXJ4L5GpkT+aQhGhjN6yG7XflObFhBwb49pw2C7br2UlU/ GLwWs30cDAXLjMUyE+WIRrqX6EUsOba3p3ejXAJCPO+W6Ri2Gr1sPJx48aGIEQ7WGNDI XWVg== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUg136YIvUWvA/p6lFce6PfnKZ0H5r3ur+vwJLjmNqTHG1k1IC5P xYWFv8ub4lzBAuSo3ldUqMwPmyqYpOecf7KG1A0IDsoW7ys= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QC/MoHCMr8wUw0Tj56rnsKvzrEKhoCUn3n98WgnQtEj/KI9w4g4QYz5Wl+F6iw2vTqG+0CVEkRGgNYgAWcYZJA= X-Received: by 10.55.71.79 with SMTP id u76mr25994646qka.289.1505335354865; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:42:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: php@golemon.com Received: by 10.12.132.3 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:42:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [206.252.215.26] Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 20:42:34 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: wKfPvdi-v9B-EqVk-yBZPdVdwfw Message-ID: To: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: [RFC][Discuss] Increase non-syntax runtime-impacting RFC voting threshold to 60% From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon) https://wiki.php.net/rfc/rfc.voting-threshold This topic has come up on the mailing list a few times, so I'd like to formally open the topic for discussion. I'm generally pretty liberal when it comes to allowing the PHP language to evolve and explore its identity, but the truth is a feature that has 30 people vote against it and 31 people vote in favor of it is not a mandate by any stretch of the imagination. It's an opportunity to examine why a divide exists and if we're all being honest with each other, improve the original idea before it becomes a maintenance burden. Please note the "Open Question". I'm not all that sure 60% is enough of a mandate either, but I wanted to be conservative in my conservatism. If folks think 2/3 is more appropriate (and consistent with syntax changes), I'm happy to change this number before we move to voting phase. -Sara Or, as Ze'ev once famously said, "Give the language a rest".