Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:100561 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 97571 invoked from network); 13 Sep 2017 14:06:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Sep 2017 14:06:33 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.128.174 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.128.174 mail-wr0-f174.google.com Received: from [209.85.128.174] ([209.85.128.174:45681] helo=mail-wr0-f174.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1F/B1-19300-86B39B95 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 10:06:32 -0400 Received: by mail-wr0-f174.google.com with SMTP id m18so775474wrm.2 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 07:06:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:user-agent:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:subject:to:from:message-id; bh=waUsbGCkazh9ZXp8JxVNoYDQw2tuSJLU3LwHCEIVk7M=; b=mE2ZgKaxUHiFEOreWdgoBnLzXnlOvcNC9JL4Bmhg9bIRE4Y60/HnT+TyiPgCGC8ran Ac+fmSav8j/DH9hrRZQi11aogesc4MPEyAuHBx5vs8CYdAu3Z2qfZYOHVKHFm8BU3A5e eUZdI2InnPIWKRgetouoeQBJGxWrkdaZf7NmsOL9vt7xbey+MWa3Lo3ZhwqlteM5+mGD 5TwYjoHL2n0BU7I2ZGX5eV4TZ3aKb/5K+VHi3wRbnIPlD57UzQFON/n0IvFby4HcpwMp PD0oDeODIm1DtCekTeNHW/GjN32wr1o7UqLKiztSbAInHr8Yio90XpvAIdkn1Tu6DOLy E2lw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:subject:to:from:message-id; bh=waUsbGCkazh9ZXp8JxVNoYDQw2tuSJLU3LwHCEIVk7M=; b=XDkLdyEzEg1VyaLi0HJ+9h51zC5LN8JQ8Uh0OAxsJqr44i78cgnA2B+tqsKnqTCgz/ TNWq12kQVcrz2oQ6I3DMqIX+1JHUKJL3t/41TlshoITEF8X7WPxf1eZs4LMqCWmJp9xx xzVvE2f0flzkaDk7zHjiB4lt0YQCGJzkeDusBP3Wd96BI0gJ6FQYgj0fu6qHFLbrdeBx h20e8i47ashq7rTYAgOI+AzKHayJdZrKZf5iqbYJKgVKCtGkD0z7dKO/Cb6FVjIXPWC6 noBcSxyWbmPhluHDvwpDG9gfzZ38U8o9pHEIeC84A6FbdHA+WKo0rDbsi1c+UxEv67hr 4ADg== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUg+YTbTtU+oQC4plgyN+AL60lEYN+sDYk/zwJIRpWLL72mIDW8L t+tnn6M+JfZtI3zt5Q4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADKCNb7znaHoA+Ndw0/6hO4GT2k+kRXB7cYD/+T36WxVC93ozNYDbsLoahJyJHdVhsx1st4U9lfrgg== X-Received: by 10.223.196.11 with SMTP id v11mr14655188wrf.21.1505311589274; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 07:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.7.33.111] (188.29.164.150.threembb.co.uk. [188.29.164.150]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 77sm1087299wmt.16.2017.09.13.07.06.28 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 13 Sep 2017 07:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 15:06:25 +0100 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: <3D.0C.10715.383F8B95@pb1.pair.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----VTQ9PULIUOPGTH388BSCFEHAKM8BM5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Deprecate and remove case-insensitive constants? From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) ------VTQ9PULIUOPGTH388BSCFEHAKM8BM5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 13 September 2017 14:15:43 BST, Ryan Pallas wro= te: >I must be missing something, there is no autoloader shipped with PHP=2E Just to be pedantically correct, there actually is an implementation shipp= ed, see http://php=2Enet/spl_autoload It's even the default if you don't pa= ss your own function to spl_autoload_register=2E Nonetheless, you are quite right that Tony's complaint is nonsensical, bec= ause he could implement whatever autoloader suited his directory structure,= if he wanted to - even a case insensitive one=2E It is true that autoloading isn't mandatory, but it's also a complete stra= w man, because Sara already made the same point herself: > I don't feel as though that's true of =2E=2E=2E > projects where autoloaders > aren't used (not a small number)=2E Regards, --=20 Rowan Collins [IMSoP] ------VTQ9PULIUOPGTH388BSCFEHAKM8BM5--