Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:100406 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 35192 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2017 11:04:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Sep 2017 11:04:48 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=danack@basereality.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=danack@basereality.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain basereality.com from 74.125.83.51 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: danack@basereality.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.83.51 mail-pg0-f51.google.com Received: from [74.125.83.51] ([74.125.83.51:33604] helo=mail-pg0-f51.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D6/42-10715-A46DFA95 for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2017 07:04:44 -0400 Received: by mail-pg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id t3so14743805pgt.0 for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2017 04:04:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=basereality-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=qkTtAvrXWxcR4yNvun6fmFtlaEETzvbPr+1d6o9WjFk=; b=QqRC2Pj0NCilaKrYalxw64DYvn0BmFheR5emt3MV7Xd6KkR5/JIkTsqAXBoAiwHQLx OMU9ySrN3G+LOZ1X879MWNpGypWrmqeSt4jX17O8QN9kUa7occ8MtgZAPRwRLUst1/zg XN7ImxhOwOQsEJHaflP4Bdh/XBu0eyMY7Vu4/uhtaLHUjaJZkBV9nsnxD6lRoZx1CQOD XJqIugjtT6ziK6fT6k9VgZ1eByPw0BpjeWz830xrcfMt4elv2vVYq/vYX5cvhckjivVq 6mNRUMND2CjP6fNomoVqr+8UooAO3QGVcIZLi8q8n9AJxDdnQ9OrD9kaeZolE3ChbgQr hmTw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=qkTtAvrXWxcR4yNvun6fmFtlaEETzvbPr+1d6o9WjFk=; b=nVAEpAxON0ej0rWhgKPe0LcHwGyZqjyQUekccbq/4T18k2nJmn3i/pbc/mqBlAkrVA WnJCE99O/gXhsYQeS+SowMGQ6pXZVhtfIG4sQ3O7+YWuzx61tFcgaxQeCutX48tvTojA oU7BTZOgqhCYpcmsofH8wP2GE3JoOAJZckCPjYcGB+eXYdE3puVlQz8L7ZgP5ZSWTjQF +Fzt7qh0mPBPJG5jpMCo5gWQa31Q7DN/fmv2eUSlvfcyC7jpVmSs6Ym6ic41A+s0vjV+ 959vnuq3g0VXK9TpwyrRqzc6jehb87eDOkNAV8LWxsvmfLudG+cI+sfjZ+jNvzYhzv1K 53Mw== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUjP1KNN/ruGIXdb8Wa72ApzbVigz/mdd3sIXiI4METzyYh+uwD1 ZwL8iZRSZwv6QjxzSV5Mm9Qvh8wzK3DD X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADKCNb7f2djGSCs0w3I1qYcwwph9BUQL6dlyWrtYem4uUmBlxcKk6ikl28l/DhT1rHTDTjfV4Bis9ckilCH+GccEagk= X-Received: by 10.99.115.21 with SMTP id o21mr7427764pgc.334.1504695880163; Wed, 06 Sep 2017 04:04:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.180.133 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Sep 2017 04:04:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [81.143.203.71] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 12:04:39 +0100 Message-ID: To: Yasuo Ohgaki Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" , Nikita Popov Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] hash_hkdf() signature and return value From: danack@basereality.com (Dan Ackroyd) On 6 September 2017 at 02:15, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > What should we do for this? Not us, you. You should start listening to other people's feedback. You continually refuse to accept any feedback that doesn't agree with your world-view, not only on the subject of hkdf, but on validation and other things you think are "MANDATORY" You should respect RFC votes and stop bringing up the same discussions over and over again. This is incredibly tedious. In particular your suggestion about hash_hkdf was rejected unanimously, apart from your own vote https://wiki.php.net/rfc/improve_hash_hkdf_parameter and so probably shouldn't be brought up for discussion, except if you can bring new facts for discussion. "Not liking the result of the vote" is not a new fact to discuss. Additionally though, your ideas about adding validation/filter functions as a C extension, rather than implementing them in PHP have also been resoundingly rejected, https://wiki.php.net/rfc/add_validate_functions_to_filter and yet you continue to promote the idea. This is also tedious. This pattern of behaviour, continually refusing to accept that other people have opinions that don't align with yours, and continually bringing up the same topics for discussion over, and over, and over again is not productive. It does not make people want to engage you in discussion, as it is a waste of their time. This is not something other people can fix for you. cheers Dan Ack