Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:100017 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 17878 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2017 01:55:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Jul 2017 01:55:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@golemon.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@golemon.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (pb1.pair.com: domain golemon.com does not designate 74.125.82.42 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@golemon.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.42 mail-wm0-f42.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.42] ([74.125.82.42:37779] helo=mail-wm0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 0C/C5-02884-72204795 for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2017 21:55:52 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f42.google.com with SMTP id c184so7585434wmd.0 for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2017 18:55:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=golemon-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=5cVFhFgDkHGOLXeyZDbwB2OUM/qKsg6+4by54jFKHT8=; b=VWfD5MtBLQl/ekWJb+78o7/Gnr+iA+oowVUF9TwPnACXFpsn81xVHPzKxblq8sd+v0 5Ak06mDAyKrVP2Tv4o3nOfM5a/IdzsuL92+YFmuuoKnaxwg7N4IBrlFc7/E0BCyuUlCh x0dEThHhoxvY4m4t18ucAfp8lnLBYwZfHx4vfdELjsQBtsamGFzPFRFkn2DksBQxNB0X o/uD3YU1cR09p4NKiIn3EZqsdQhtKfGv+CPg487DoRH9szrw2e+cCup6BUQwW9hOsaBO d8BkakqyF5TKs18BqPOPpBr5e5DA3ockcqYAO0srWlCd6BYvUdnnZdB1ZG3jPOv4BRNn OwUQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5cVFhFgDkHGOLXeyZDbwB2OUM/qKsg6+4by54jFKHT8=; b=ByJhmK+ypo6Kg0CGCsSr7jkHXSY16LrlFOs7C4xuYPUP8qC5ujWf1UlmRfBEtORPWZ gSwCXgVyoSkyyVI/2tIg7TzR1f3VcqYeB2svlNAEQT4GfoXT1ECbs1sFwmN9Ahj0/RYE PEUnpmLk08TUigCKPDROR9TPCtCYcaK1DuAVhtmqy3XrQI6iXVrzWZDtHrcApvNrzEWT vVX87gDhFWP3Xs8Mwpd1oE4yrlCVZThti5LljsTv8KL6IwOH4mTiGi8e1DmBYRwPRPQA aEzz0U7vvFzgK4+WmP715tdVe6XCkRtKB8NYFzO8hrTeiPKtWpdJ2RJAZKDSFjV48EuS bikw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw111a9wxLrdBi57Fm0ro/POKmuy/l86RVY0GIeOYVTA2uSwzdKdSq 9peBxUoXSLVu0RLBcCs3NVkHDucZBuPD X-Received: by 10.28.129.70 with SMTP id c67mr2192446wmd.175.1500774948686; Sat, 22 Jul 2017 18:55:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: php@golemon.com Received: by 10.223.169.139 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jul 2017 18:55:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [71.251.16.204] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 21:55:47 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4CNMbYd8wFBuhPcuy1jQzmP594o Message-ID: To: Nikita Popov Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.2 forked From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon) On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Nikita Popov wrote: > What's out current state regarding ABI? I've recently done some work on > making mbstring slightly less abysmally slow, but landed the changes on > master only, because this included ABI breaks in mbfl/mbstring APIs and > globals. Is this something I can land in PHP-7.2, or is it closed to > extension ABI changes? > During beta I'm willing to tolerate some ABI breaks for high-value things, but while mbstring performance is inarguably a good thing, stability is an even better thing. Anatol mentioned concern about stability, ergo I'm inclined to defer these improvements till 7.3. -Sara