Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:97856 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 15295 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2017 13:21:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Jan 2017 13:21:13 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.218.50 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.218.50 mail-oi0-f50.google.com Received: from [209.85.218.50] ([209.85.218.50:34980] helo=mail-oi0-f50.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 19/67-00729-4CB6F785 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 08:21:09 -0500 Received: by mail-oi0-f50.google.com with SMTP id j15so6567689oih.2 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 05:21:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=w/9Acwz2rMq98snDXqW47kvhuPJ6p4khxLEubf3Vazk=; b=K7NtWtftfFSHwShDdrvUYXdFEPXhhnwCTGg9T4EC8UBB5VVdwKeHRyYYCo25HAJvii kdxALT1wlfLi+pukTb8hBZqyO2cwNb0JFHPoT6ekxYbWaNnHST7kifBevVuAUnjQl3Ju +w+cB5BslauXuhR+sUOxiVE8969eeisTk26qN5n7loW6q181fIZxd6cmUl2OTTu+HMh6 +rEh982jWaJdI4Ugw8lceufa6eGsPzg5JpDyxD+JEP+nC8w7cq9rOmH/xd+dPvuavtxG qpNYXFj6qQtQXzdxpUfhzx8SW96V7yDbOnIZL1VIbeOnZQZSnDko+PZvmPCkPUqCKAHO KbYQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=w/9Acwz2rMq98snDXqW47kvhuPJ6p4khxLEubf3Vazk=; b=KjLknGWDtcMPLdL2j2rJcDsdMMV0H/Etc0q+96VlDz0x1jCzm5wiqzh3MJ8IGr4Cee pDR5O8bAhpce7U0EHKvCW/ajbeAJX0ju1Y4RntmoVsGtkwr0e5gOFvdeOYAX509fzNUf iQILgvi0yYi50+OlnSE3JA3LjS1sdN2C/lQJ5NcDhvJV1RQXcrreCArwn/Q+izPjzUrU NxHh+5R8bXe4yG/BCZuZk6mYOQtG5rGag+v1wu8I4d4/xRJwEnxY6UNIhWGKUE0pJIma yl0S+tUpCDcQcCVf0rZyJPzD8CQQvpTlIUmQZHUk/yYI1AmNYNauxARZQRJQ7+acceiZ VVRQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJAAaYcKKiO80+WpJ7meaU3s7nUdJh+vkfKDz5s9xmxXiREUY+HsiOXPCnkq3I7PUx/D+a5uM7tRIATtQ== X-Received: by 10.202.8.197 with SMTP id 188mr1683017oii.22.1484745666444; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 05:21:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.42.34 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 05:21:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:21:05 +0100 Message-ID: To: Joe Watkins Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c13057207c3ce05465e4af7 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs) --94eb2c13057207c3ce05465e4af7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Joe Watkins wrote: > Morning internals, > > Some of you may have noticed that a few of us have put considerable effor= t > into cleanup of pull requests on github, these are now manageable and I'm > quite confident that we will be able to merge pull requests in a timely > manner, and stay on top of it. > > When it comes to bugsnet, there are feature requests and bugs that have > been open for more than 10 years, and nobody has talked about them in abo= ut > as long, they may concern defunct versions of PHP, or removed extensions = or > SAPIs: These numbers in the thousands. > > It's very difficult (impossible) to see a good reason for these to be ope= n, > they are not useful at all. > > With normal support for 5 ended, now is the perfect time to cleanup > bugsnet. If we can get the numbers down to something manageable, we have = a > reasonable expectation to stay on top of them. > > I think anyone that has been waiting a number of years for a response to = a > feature request deserves to know that it is not reasonably happening, and > that there are better ways of trying to get a feature in than opening > yet-another-feature-request on bugsnet. > > I think any bug report opened against 4 and not updated is useless. > > I think anything with a patch attached targeting 5 is useless, regardless > of age; they should be encouraged to open a pull request on github agains= t > a supported branch. > > I'd like to hear what others think about cleaning up bugsnet, what criter= ia > we might use for a mass cleanup. > > After a mass cleanup, I/we will go in and start working through whatever = is > left, but 5k mostly irrelevant bugs is too much to ask, it would take me > months and months to work through those, time that nobody has, or will ev= er > have. > > Cheers > Joe > hi Joe, thanks for triaging the github PRs, I also agree that we should do some culling on our bugsweb issues (relevant: https://www. joelonsoftware.com/2012/07/09/software-inventory/ ). just wanted to mention that we have the feedback status, if a bug stays in the feedback status for 2 weeks the bug will be closed by a cronjob with the no feedback reason. we could set the old bugs to feedback with an automatic comment that please review the issue and target a supported version if you still want this issue to be resolved and then let the reporters do that or the bug will be closed. I think this is a good compromise between just closing/suspending the issues without explanation. --=20 Ferenc Kov=C3=A1cs @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu --94eb2c13057207c3ce05465e4af7--