Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:97583 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 51817 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2017 14:07:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Jan 2017 14:07:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=cmbecker69@gmx.de; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=cmbecker69@gmx.de; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmx.de designates 212.227.17.21 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: cmbecker69@gmx.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.227.17.21 mout.gmx.net Received: from [212.227.17.21] ([212.227.17.21:59454] helo=mout.gmx.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C4/27-31343-C9742785 for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 09:07:25 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.109] ([217.82.227.120]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MDi9C-1cFpbX0KnG-00H5hk; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 15:07:17 +0100 To: Joe Watkins References: <8c7deca0-3834-0104-fd49-447dfe3f5a24@gmx.de> Cc: PHP internals Message-ID: <1dc4a073-8a39-2c9f-758a-5dcec59d16a6@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2017 15:07:16 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:ScaMwPovzv1X505pXD296r3KUCXeHJljhQQCu2ocvmn1ezALOCh gBtLE/mjT1U8CTLsbv1yZ7xrGo18AalHf/wdQ0rOWH5Mvoy17DXg+miXwpcJdRdI30ReY5z PgqWVr9l4RaZ31Vm/AYSgZoEDuKx2EsNK6CAqmTgZgzyegdstRLg4W7lOrMQlfn02VN+U0i /6vdV/PEIpFzN02GziGUA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:vH0LeoukDN4=:GoXwD27H6QGrZOFX6wgpZA RAyJGAZoAd59Ff1iSWmGmDs+sxFaefbMBkIXoetKmbsScXg/uhz9sO+u1xeqDAcsNcrc1LGuj aPTnZS0Y38qRUXdkUMNWwzhNGgUi0oORF3U8HiqM918R1UvkF2T8yJs6Uszdp6FLEmbiVRhCC k1khBkCCFZqQ/O/h3MCpWVAfSd8JDUa+C1/xODh/srscmwO5FRaW0p6WsL27fu1qX/jxcSrfJ j9HFGrppXpwrisEi2hFysc0AkGGOe4yOJ2E9fNgSUh8lwKWbl44qthWxr2StDbeHjQAFbx1cw fmw5Kf5rhykcdcLRww0DKnLxDwJF/jgtjQtEN0Znsb/q3sC/94qMXBWtlB/sP1kQyLvZKFjSb ypwlmSVm4wvG3sbBodq1cpllCjSGPBIipRAaAJFGSEGNxDgFs8xcNC195OUDsHirlc4umGWqh wOowfv6hyI9+NB9ZMY6K9NTrUQ6R7ulNBC5wSqTB/31tfnbJ6k3BWnX/U7o/q3gHwBTTkK7xS fDvrakFRrBXqZPEX9Io1XGfpVwzLIixw5tlxFbuLcSxFlDtj8LRKgY0i8zzDIipjVsKxGuK/6 7Dp1lYmEEuHNyAlaTlqP2wi5ZvFFFonaQTotZOz9ZBQ5HzSMi2sc27dqVSomqVZ3h36FFJmtd 8/SEjFDlnPMliZDJcmwWZWfcpAMyYYy8S0Dc6HkSBAjxk2+vE4B+bzJ6A8+vtzLvMhDh7SmZv 0YjDYmKzTN/3scgrgwhZNVHWvtxJFJNP8t8k4XjMmlWQDAOQmU/WxG8zy0GCxou3VU8wrlWyU O4qMVDiDL9gY7R38b8PxYUaZGn/+hhZXh2UHLTprU9LmwnXL+LgsPBTXjr981XAkGtB1/AdMB 05Iy/Sv7IOjCTy4nQyRpLbtI/C6FpkFUFZ6Mk7vJcrO3Ld5tUEKtvStQeHnhNFnq2ms+V7c+S oVghEXU+ylTxatKR1NSqSyfBdvkUCu7aCjFBeNPd+tCSGVxd5f8kYbPEuFkpbCivZ87hnkRyy BynAiJ8uFWNwZsGmAVIxbUM= Subject: Re: bugsnet cleanup From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker") On 08.01.2017 at 14:31, Joe Watkins wrote: > Leaving them open isn't helping anyone or anything, and if it overwhelms me > to see that many, you can be pretty sure it has scared a bunch of people > away. I have to agree. Since others already have expressed to be in favor of a "mass cleanup", I'm not opposed. :-) >> Unmaintained bundled extensions should be considererd to be moved to PECL >> as soon as possible (there is already a RFC draft[1] about this – I hope >> this will proceed soon). > > I'm not sure what you mean by unmaintained, anything bundled is maintained > by virtue of the fact it is bundled ? It appears to me that several extensions get rather "odd fixes" only (borrowing the terminology of EXTENSIONS). > While I agree that some of those should be removed, I don't think it solves > any long term problems for us. I beg to differ. Fewer extensions mean less code to maintain. > Maybe you could draft an RFC to put a team together, ask for volunteers to > work on that project and see what happens. I'll think about it. :-) -- Christoph M. Becker