Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:97576 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 35448 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2017 10:29:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Jan 2017 10:29:45 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=nikita.ppv@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=nikita.ppv@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.161.180 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: nikita.ppv@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.180 mail-yw0-f180.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.180] ([209.85.161.180:34350] helo=mail-yw0-f180.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A4/54-31343-79412785 for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:29:45 -0500 Received: by mail-yw0-f180.google.com with SMTP id w75so5829698ywg.1 for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 02:29:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=VOyb/+G26uj1+3KdtGfrK3mfKazJGNHVxq2HpqkvBAE=; b=XBdCz9WOuSVrNyb6pa7S5BXkTrff9MkD5LqxMJCDhFmkwC4V26zOxvTCRyLalaeWyq hI3OolCi+cYishBdidfp/Nf9HD1QahMN3rLLtsRL3uZpSpjoX3cMrtQ0FpvO5eVS2zdG k1pwJ3qv/fkiloN7a6ihF7dlvrR9dh5e/WFtxqm6zIzXiSdf7UZ3vKse5LQDECYl+sOW J6FqDEHiKJg5oEwG6i0dePUj+jdAtlP0fL2epGlIO2PYdMclRqfINwOtnHUO41sMQJE6 i8ZSKP9FZU4sCcWHCTmUQeTMS5q+zbcAoicU9VyRdKrYBPtFz1cAFxVBgBY6Yerr+du0 4Jbw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=VOyb/+G26uj1+3KdtGfrK3mfKazJGNHVxq2HpqkvBAE=; b=ImhdZ5ccwA8wrCLtNqHFrGTEA1YtwgWhqxZIVL1Q6+N65FnMyDt4dfonETU8rxlstM /gxHZ9U4qK8svP6NXHsTS4wF/ALyKEEi1LwGnu3r5Cg2bAoIs7ERCfk3DPbwEeaK7N9r OsHc5t4zGXBJ138BtC0imlvu3wxJEZZMIGSdFiLxBGp8193UNMmHgA9TrqKVvXYr9H80 QuNjQ0eRSjjXnHiSYeXHpagtNQTVW7+vs+cxYtAP/IKolrUlTGAA+ZkK+6PyptEGoZAz 2Q04d19jCTNHm2ViS83ktHEtQf40deLll68EEaVGppwUUMGzNyd4r1x3phLXDmI1VmTW YE0Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKdetHiCbmcg4BhMlPJrv69h3jrI1A/7WqYdZGi8AWU3+lvWTRiIJy8NNhOOG8T7DjeKOT9vPuDZs3+Qg== X-Received: by 10.129.65.5 with SMTP id o5mr80928440ywa.324.1483871381121; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 02:29:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.129.80.5 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 02:29:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2017 11:29:40 +0100 Message-ID: To: Joe Watkins Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f403045e6a86906dfb054592ba53 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] bugsnet cleanup From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov) --f403045e6a86906dfb054592ba53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Jan 8, 2017 7:47 AM, "Joe Watkins" wrote: Morning internals, Some of you may have noticed that a few of us have put considerable effort into cleanup of pull requests on github, these are now manageable and I'm quite confident that we will be able to merge pull requests in a timely manner, and stay on top of it. When it comes to bugsnet, there are feature requests and bugs that have been open for more than 10 years, and nobody has talked about them in about as long, they may concern defunct versions of PHP, or removed extensions or SAPIs: These numbers in the thousands. It's very difficult (impossible) to see a good reason for these to be open, they are not useful at all. With normal support for 5 ended, now is the perfect time to cleanup bugsnet. If we can get the numbers down to something manageable, we have a reasonable expectation to stay on top of them. I think anyone that has been waiting a number of years for a response to a feature request deserves to know that it is not reasonably happening, and that there are better ways of trying to get a feature in than opening yet-another-feature-request on bugsnet. I think any bug report opened against 4 and not updated is useless. I think anything with a patch attached targeting 5 is useless, regardless of age; they should be encouraged to open a pull request on github against a supported branch. I'd like to hear what others think about cleaning up bugsnet, what criteria we might use for a mass cleanup. After a mass cleanup, I/we will go in and start working through whatever is left, but 5k mostly irrelevant bugs is too much to ask, it would take me months and months to work through those, time that nobody has, or will ever have. Cheers Joe As a general note: By convention the "Closed" state is only for bugs that have been fixed or feature requests that have been implemented. If something is not going to be fixed / implemented one of Won't Fix, Not a Bug or Suspended should be used, as appropriate. Nikita --f403045e6a86906dfb054592ba53--