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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2024 14:07:53 +0300
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PDO subclass names
To: Matteo Beccati <php@beccati.com>
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From: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com (Arvids Godjuks)

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On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 at 12:07, Matteo Beccati <php@beccati.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> > If MariaDB wants to maintain a specific PDO Driver they can do so
> > themselves and publish it on PECL, same as how CUBRID (and others) does
> > currently.
>
> That is true, however it's mysqlnd the part that deals with the network
> protocol, which they wouldn't be able to modify from PECL. That said,
> I'm not an expert on mysql/maria, but I also doubt the changes are
> significant enough that they need a separate driver.
>

 I wasn't proposing rolling a separate driver or anything like that, just
an alias that would reserve a namespace for MariaDB and if there's ever a
need to actually roll the driver, that alias be replaced with actual driver=
.
The thing is at this point MySQL and MariaDB have a different set of
additional capabilities that are not compatible between the two. Doctrine,
at this point, actually makes a distinction between MariaDB and MySQL -
those are considered different databases.
This would allow people to use MariaDB and MySQL-specific functionality by
using the respective driver namespace and remove any confusion about if
this works with both or only one of them.

I know it seems to be out of scope, but this deals with PDO subclass names
and this seems to be a thing to consider here. Sure, we can have a separate
RFC about it, but I think this is the right moment to handle this question.



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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 at 12:07, Matteo =
Beccati &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:php@beccati.com">php@beccati.com</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; If MariaDB wants to maintain a specific PDO Driver they can do so <br>
&gt; themselves and publish it on PECL, same as how CUBRID (and others) doe=
s <br>
&gt; currently.<br>
<br>
That is true, however it&#39;s mysqlnd the part that deals with the network=
 <br>
protocol, which they wouldn&#39;t be able to modify from PECL. That said, <=
br>
I&#39;m not an expert on mysql/maria, but I also doubt the changes are <br>
significant enough that they need a separate driver.<br></blockquote><div><=
br></div><div>=C2=A0I wasn&#39;t proposing rolling a separate driver or any=
thing like that, just an alias that would reserve a namespace for MariaDB a=
nd if there&#39;s ever a need to actually roll the driver, that alias be re=
placed with actual driver.</div><div>The thing is at this point MySQL and M=
ariaDB have a different set of additional capabilities that are not compati=
ble between the two. Doctrine, at this point, actually makes a distinction =
between MariaDB and MySQL - those are considered different databases.</div>=
<div>This would allow people to use MariaDB and MySQL-specific functionalit=
y by using the respective driver namespace and remove any confusion about i=
f this works with both or only one of them.</div><div><br></div><div>I know=
 it seems to be out of scope, but this deals with PDO subclass names and th=
is seems to be a thing to consider here. Sure, we can have a separate RFC a=
bout it, but I think this is the right moment to handle this question.</div=
><div><br></div></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div><span class=3D"gmail=
_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div>Arv=C4=ABds Godjuks<div>+371 26 851 664</d=
iv><div><a href=3D"mailto:arvids.godjuks@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">arvid=
s.godjuks@gmail.com</a></div><div>Telegram: @psihius=C2=A0<a href=3D"https:=
//t.me/psihius" target=3D"_blank">https://t.me/psihius</a></div></div></div=
></div>

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