Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:122808 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 094591ADB05 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2024 16:34:11 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1711730076; bh=aqG4d1/V8fEXG0IJBmX9JWaMdQ8Zr7O+mEunvez4MHs=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=iB/2oxwj9Oh6nQZh+LidSnFlB88DgAaSoJnO4NQ7l7dVN/1irYbcO2wHltKzcBiom x6NRmjtDkq/gUqszVG5AbhPDfdFqIamCTpJi4Kca6otRCeh0sUryMe5yirnkX4K5o+ U1CePy2JYVvUX9v/dIxRPFsvILAeeFrP9Zcurti0YNjOpZnoyyyF3OJzWx5xLNtdg9 Wv04FlJNF2vBHCst7/bLawgzcg+IvPIUv5ahx1dZIuolhm72zRqYZVVbyMbXwFOSAN xJxjQ5A6Ubt2HxCVszX9HcLmDt2I4p+mVKBiYps0l5ASzi/NUXRKPQ5RvAlIKo7art tnOFCQzeyqqtA== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4882180638 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2024 16:34:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_MISSING,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_SOFTFAIL,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from xdebug.org (xdebug.org [82.113.146.227]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2024 16:34:32 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1711730046; bh=aqG4d1/V8fEXG0IJBmX9JWaMdQ8Zr7O+mEunvez4MHs=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=kFSbY2BBmuUx47JbqJ8ldCatqMTAcBaEBJSHFKNYfJrMCT/g30V6Pgk/Gd38+qRNE QWdg/3L8bhPM6DyV+lL0c3i0KmqqKjCP5kMYLGXQn1637KOVfToq1DDW054EDh+Lsy wWw1c9KIBaKsLQuWoR1Xl3wK/zHywqFvm5tGqG5c1QNPTIsKgHr4wkjb7YS0wxD8SJ MqYwZmS4LvH19ezsAK2s4LtaEwVXnYjqcPf6csxtBzTBjTIdhQB4xNOJjl6lolubqu /w1DFNOK/L0J0WDw4TjjKD0qRUolUpLkUn6CDeJR8ephoB2mlSpbc3FMNesq+BbBlX kRaS8oSMO4xsg== Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54F6810C159; Fri, 29 Mar 2024 16:34:05 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2024 16:34:05 +0000 (GMT) To: Morgan cc: internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Release cycle update, take #2 In-Reply-To: <680bfd62-cddb-4f7c-8adb-d1c84a51cffb@varteg.nz> Message-ID: References: <04736cc6-0372-8228-7d2a-7e12453a8f0c@php.net> <45598d80-7834-4355-9b30-b5da99a611f4@app.fastmail.com> <680bfd62-cddb-4f7c-8adb-d1c84a51cffb@varteg.nz> Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On Fri, 22 Mar 2024, Morgan wrote: > On 2024-03-22 08:19, Jim Winstead wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2024, at 10:54 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: > > > > > > The RFC is at https://wiki.php.net/rfc/release_cycle_update > > > > Could this RFC also be a good time to clarify what sort of BC changes are > > actually allowed in major and minor releases, or should we save that for a > > different RFC? (Because it's already been acknowledged that the current > > written policy doesn't align with the practiced policy, and I think it would > > be nice to get those in sync.) > > > If so, would it also good time/place to clarify how deprecation relates to > future removal. Say, while deprecations could come in any minor release, they > would be removed only after a full major version has elapsed (something > deprecated in 8.x would be removed in 10.0; technically that would mean a > deprecation in 9.0.0 would also mean removal in 10.0). It would allow using > the overall release cycle to forecast when something you're currently relying > on will go away and plan accordingly. The current "rule" is that we can remove deprecated features in any x.0.0 release (https://github.com/php/policies/blob/main/release-process.rst#releases-cycle). I am not proposing to change that with this RFC. cheers, Derick -- https://derickrethans.nl | https://xdebug.org | https://dram.io Author of Xdebug. Like it? Consider supporting me: https://xdebug.org/support mastodon: @derickr@phpc.social @xdebug@phpc.social